Slimming Clubs Truths
Good morning everyone, hello how are you doing? Hope you're on a walk or something, not laying in bed listening. Get up, go for walks, I'm moving in the morning, it's important. So I sent an email out the other day to our members saying Slimming World Truths Revealed. And this email said: I got sent this by an ex Slimming World Weight Watchers goer who is now a turtle member, who said these are bang on.
Speaker 1:So do you relate to any of these slimming world realities? Number one: You will wear exactly the same thing to get weighed each week, even if it's minus two degrees outside, you'll wearing a flirty summer dress freezing your boobies off. Number two: You will save all your sins points up in the week so you can neck a bottle of vodka on a Friday night. Three. You will not eat a thing before weigh in, even if weigh in is at 8PM.
Speaker 1:Four. Food and a diet, a bit dry. Quack. Need a creamy hitting your pasta? Quack.
Speaker 1:Broken leg? Quack. End will poverty? Quack. Linda, the slimmer world leader, is not skinny herself and doesn't follow the plan.
Speaker 1:Sex sins, punch stone, count if help, cures a hangover. A new flavor of muller light is announced and creates a frenzy of riot proportions. And I say Slimming World has created a terrible relationship between tracking and health. The tracking in Slimming World is: one) based on their nonsense point system, it doesn't teach you the reality, they hide the macros behind their own points making you reliant. And two, all comes down to that one weekly weigh in where everyone is judging you, everyone is waiting to see if you've lost weight or not, everything relies on that one weekly weigh in.
Speaker 1:That is the holy grail. And I say no wonder people have anxiety about weighing themselves if they go to Slimming World first because it's an all or nothing thing. Weighing yourselves once a week is all or nothing, you either succeed or you don't, and if you don't, you get hold off and if you do, you are praising God. And I say if you want to get free from this nonsense and lose weight for the final time and do it the turtle way, join our app, it's free fourteen days, you will learn the realities, the mindset stuff, macros, calories, none other nonsense systems, just the truth right? Get a reply to his email: Hey Scott, I don't normally reply to these emails.
Speaker 1:I'm normally a gossip person, just thought it was interesting. I don't normally reply to these emails but it hasn't really got to me. I really can't stand it when companies try to get sales by putting down other companies. I'm not a slimmer world member, you definitely are, nor have I ever been, you definitely have. I personally wouldn't want to follow them but equally understand that lots and lots of people have had success from following their methods.
Speaker 1:I feel if an ex or current Slimming World member read your email it would trigger all sorts of emotions and not good. It's like you're making fun of them. How about selling methods through case studies and what you do differently around the folks and what you perceive others to be doing wrong? I don't expect to want to reply, just something for you to think about in the future, but I did reply. And it's interesting.
Speaker 1:Of course you've done the same world, you wouldn't be coming out all guns blazing if you didn't want to defend something you've done, and this email proves that it's the truth. What I said in that email is truth, because if it really, really gets under someone's skin, right, there's a reality to it. And the thing is, I will always come out against companies like Slimming World and Weight Watchers. I don't give a shit. Like, I they don't do the right thing.
Speaker 1:Yes, they've been around for the sixties, they've been around for ages, but just because they've been around for a while and some people have claimed success from Slimming World, it's not been a long term thing. How many times have people come back to Slimming World time after time after time? Eight, nine, 10 times. Those points there I mentioned are universal parts, that is what someone's posted and everyone's agreed with those points, there's way more there. The horrific realities of the swimming world, people turning up in summer dresses in the winter just to be lighter on the scale in front of other people, all or nothing weigh in.
Speaker 1:If you don't lose weight, you've lost for the weight, think of how bad that is for the effort you put in the week. You're saving up your sins and all this stuff and then you go on the vodka and because, you know, that's not part of the plan and all this stuff and you're all enough mindset flat out, right? And I looked into it as well. If you want be a Slimming consultant, which is these people who do these groups of Slimming World, no matter what the doctors are at the top and they hire people with PhDs and doctors to buy their name and say what they want, they'll say in the work that we do evidence based la la la. It doesn't matter because who is delivering the program on the ground level to the people is what matters, and these people on the ground level, the consultants, they don't need any experience, they don't need any qualifications.
Speaker 1:It says here, Whether you're confident and outgoing or more reserved, as a consultant you be kind, warm, sometimes firm, often funny, and as you offer support and encouragement to your group members. With the experience of being a successful Slimming World member and well on your way to your target, you don't need any special qualifications to apply. If the role is the right role for you, you'll receive all the training and support you need to succeed wrapped in warmth, humor, understanding and respect, and goes on the same as you can earn. Isn't that the problem? So you can have best, you can have all the evidence based, but you've got people delivering it who don't really, are not doing it for the right reasons, doing it for a few quid.
Speaker 1:No experiences, no qualifications, you know, never run a group before maybe, but are now lead are kind of the ones to say if you're a success or a failure or not in the group. Isn't that the problem? Surely that is one part of the problem. And we need more outspoken voices about these slimming clubs because they've been When they first started and no doubt they were started from the right reasons, but as they've gone big and so low to private equity firms and all this stuff, run by people that don't care really for healthcare for metrics and money and profits, you can't, at that scale, it's hard to help people in the right way. It just is.
Speaker 1:There's a limit to what we can do. Can bring in more people that we believe in, that qualify, that can do and talk, and it takes time. But if you really want to scale and focus on money, of course you would just yeah, anyone can be a consultant, come in and just sell a plan for us, know, This is the plan. They do their sins upon you, just teach them that. But we know that following the plan and the reality of helping people are very different things, right?
Speaker 1:Like we can give you your macros. We can give you your macros, your calories, your step goal, right, and you go okay, got the goal, go steps, and then you hit the wall, you hit the roadblock and you say I'm struggling, what the reply there, that is everything. That mindset there, the response from your coaches, the mindset they have, that is everything. Because if you turn around and go, yay, you didn't lose weight this week, so you did wrong, you didn't do well. But actually, when we know in the grand scheme of things, average weight is what matters, once a week isn't accurate enough, different part of your menstrual cycle, stress, weight loss and fat loss are different things, fat loss shouldn't be the be all end all of this lifestyle change, we should be focusing on all types of habits and a radically different approach to the mindset, that's what's needed and that's coming from the people helping one to one.
Speaker 1:Saw us on the radio, we've got Dean, we've got Ryan Williams, we've got our coaches helping you, talking to you, that's the main part of these plans. That's what works. So Slimming World think because they've got this system that they've kind of built the sins and the foods and the supermarkets, think that's enough. But it's never enough. Because it's the mindset that's the main thing.
Speaker 1:And the mindset, they're making it worse for people. They are making it worse for people because the people at the bottom are fucking putting everything on these weekly weigh ins. Right? So I really struck a chord with that one and I suppose that's what we'll do. And I'm not trying It's not about bringing other companies down to make sales.
Speaker 1:People are gonna compare. This is the thing about positioning your company. If you've got a company in a certain industry, every single person compares you to the industry leaders. No matter if you compare yourself or not. So if I never said a word about Slimming World, MyFitnessPal, any of these companies, and you said what's Turtle about?
Speaker 1:In reality we have to start comparing ourselves to the other options to explain why we're different. Why are we different in MyFitnessPal? We hold you to account with the weekly check ins, we've got mental cycle tracker, change your macros on a weekly basis, we've got the auto adjuster, we've got the daily diary, we've got more focus on female health, optimization for that sets us apart. We're not a food tracker, we're more than that. How are we different in a slimmer world?
Speaker 1:Well, we don't create a bullshit turtle point system on top of the reality of calories and macros for one, we teach you the real numbers, macros and calories. We teach you more about things about the mind, how to free yourself from fighting foods all the time. We take it slower, weight isn't the main thing for turtle, over time is an indicator. We're a school of life, total health, we're not about just fat loss like Slimming Clubs are, they're all about fat loss. And if you really want to tackle fat loss, have to tackle total health.
Speaker 1:Because if you only focus on fat loss and lose fat, you're going to regain it. Because it's your only focus and then when it's over you regain the weight. So it's important to look at these things and it's important that we do compare because otherwise how would you know what's the difference in it. And I was looking at research as well on there's a new changing weight loss drug coming out. And I looked at the data on it and placebo versus weight loss drug, yeah the weight loss drug lost 15 pounds more from placebo over sixty eight weeks, so like a year and a bit.
Speaker 1:But when they stopped taking this weight loss drug the gain in weight was rapid, from a minus 68 pounds loss up to only a five pound loss after another sixty weeks. So sixty weeks they lost 16 pounds, another sixty weeks they gained 10 to 12 pounds. So yeah they were a few pounds down but like I said before on the yo yo dieting, the danger here is that the rapid weight loss or the big weight loss followed by big weight regain. We don't want to be going on it's very natural to gain weight and lose weight, know, gain and lose in kind of healthy buffer zones. So you can lose 10 pounds, can gain two, two or three, four, right, and you go back down, it's a kind of vast year, there's a buffer zone with water retention, but you lose 30, gain 30, you lose 40, gain 40.
Speaker 1:There's big danger in that. Body's never been able to do that over human existence. It's a very recent phenomenon we can do this and that's the big problem. So we don't want to be looking at losing weight fast, because we're to regain it fast. We're going to lose it slow and steady and that comes with peaks and troughs, comes with acts, do daily weigh ins, can see it easily.
Speaker 1:I did an app data breakdown for people last night and I went to the show, so I was talking to Brittany, talking about the importance of steps and Brittany, one hundred and twenty pounds, works out five times a week, probably 300 calories burned per workout, so we can assume Britney's burned 1,500 calories a week from her workouts, but when we look at energy compensation, which happens with workouts, only 72% of the energy you've burned is net gained, net burned for the day. So really she's not burning 1,500 calories extra a week from exercise, she's burning 1,000 calories extra a week from exercise because energy compensation comes into it. But if she walked 12,000 steps a day or 10 to 12,000 steps a day she'd be burning an extra 2,800 calories a week, right. So walking more can burn three times more calories weekly than doing multiple workouts. So workouts aren't great for fat loss, Workouts are great for performance stuff, getting stronger, all that stuff.
Speaker 1:You should work out for the strength and you should do all that. When it comes to fat loss, you really want to be putting your steps up, especially if you weigh more. The more you weigh, the more you're going to burn from walking because the more weight to move. So you wanna try and get a high step count and make a lifestyle. You can't just go out and walk more tomorrow, but I don't know when.
Speaker 1:You say, I wake up and I go for a 20 walk every morning. Every lunch hour I go for a walk before I eat. Or I eat first and go for a twenty minute walk, after work I go for a twenty minute walk, you have to make it a lifestyle otherwise it's not going to happen. And the nights are coming now, dark and it's going to get lighter, it's going to get darker earlier. So we need to start thinking about stuff.
Speaker 1:Big time. More steps, workout for fun, maybe drop workouts three, four times a week, definitely do strength workouts, right? Drink enough water, hit your macros, boom. That's it. Workouts are the be all end all for fat loss.
Speaker 1:Far from it. And that's it really for today's voice note. I just wanted to share that I just want to recap as well. I'm definitely not making fun of people who do Slimming World who have done it. I care for you guys who have done it, are struggling, who come to us for help.
Speaker 1:That's why I do the radio every morning, do a podcast every day, do sessions in the evening, that's where the help is, that's where the help needs to happen, meeting you in the middle, chatting to you, understanding you, your personalities, your struggles, making some light heartedness of the whole thing but at the same time trying to help you change your mindset, doing the free fourteen day masterclass for people before they join us to give them the kickstart into the turtle way, right? We care a lot about actually helping you out, and sometimes we need to shake some of you people who've come from diet culture, slimming world, weight watchers, extreme dieting, all this stuff, shake you, look at what you're falling back into, it's stupid. Whatever ways I can shake someone to see the realities of it, the better. And yeah, I'm not saying we're the only company in the world that can help you, there's other coaches out there, there's other companies that can help as well, but I think we have something unique at Turtle where we focus on the who health completely. I think we've got a unique thing.
Speaker 1:So I'm always coming from the angle of wanting to help more people, not to put other companies down or other people down. It's always to help more people and get more people out of diet culture and free you from diet culture, so you can lose weight for the final time and pull your energy into things that actually matter. The stories I love hearing, stuff like one of the two week masterclass reviews before was like my husband has seen a massive change in me, I'm happier, I've got my energy, I can't believe it, I feel emotional even typing as he said, as soon as that trial is over, I'll be paying for your membership. That's amazing. Nothing about fat loss.
Speaker 1:More energy, happier, less stressed about food, more energy to put into a relationship with her husband, her kids, better life. You tell me a better result than that. There's no. So that's what it's about for us and for me. Fat loss will come, but it's not the be all end all.
Speaker 1:And then remember that. Remember the small wins, they all add up. So have a good day and I'll speak to you all soon.
